Aquino bares 3 versions of Napoles list

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Monday, May 12, 2014


MANILA -- President Benigno Aquino III has revealed that there were three lists containing different names of supposed involved in the multi-billion peso pork barrel scam that businesswoman Janet Napoles provided to authorities.

The Chief Executive made the revelation during an interview with reporters at the sidelines of the 24th Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) Summit Sunday night in Myanmar.

Aquino said he personally saw two of the lists, while the other one was only told to him by Presidential Assistant for Rehabilitation and Recovery Secretary Panfilo Lacson.

"I have seen two and they don't agree with each other exactly. And they are both supposed to have come from Mrs. Napoles," he said.

"Now, Senator Lacson was telling me of another list given to him by relatives of Mrs. Napoles. And again, there is a substantial detail there that doesn't again agree with the other two. So when you ask me, 'did you see a list?' I think the best answer is I have seen physically two lists and I am told that there is a third list," the President explained.

He said the first list was transmitted to him and which he later turned over to Justice Secretary Leila de Lima and the second list was the one Napoles submitted to the Justice chief when she visited her at the Ospital ng Makati on April 21.

Aquino said he just talked with Lacson in passing the third list, which Napoles' husband and children provided to the former senator.

He said the testimony that Napoles prepared and submitted to de Lima was still a work in progress.
He admitted that there were administration allies who were included in the lists.

"Merong alleged, maraming hindi. Pero alam ninyo kasi parang kapag sinabi kong may discrepancy, iyong number nagfa-fluctuate e. Iyong unang list na ipinadala sa akin 'X' numbers sabihin natin, ano. Iyong next list na nakita ko, minus three. Tapos iyong binabanggit sa akin parang plus four," he said when asked if there were administration allies in the lists.

He did not discount the possibility that the Napoles' lists contain different names to confuse the public and to prolong the case.

While Napoles provided different lists with different names, the President still expressed belief that they could help in ferreting out the truth.

"Parang ang value sa atin 'non, if she says the truth, thank you. If she says some of the truth and some of it lies, even the truth that will support the lies or will try to make the lies seemingly true, will help us in ferreting out the truth," he said.

"Hindi ba parang ang simple 'non, kapag nagsinungaling ka puro bola ang ginawa mo from A to Z, ano, wala. Pero kung susuportahan mo ng facts na mave-verify, baka magkaroon ng konting duda, 'Ah baka pati ito totoo.' So iyong kusa na truth or iyong truth na may pinapalusot siya, either way makakatulong sa atin iyon," he said.

Different groups, including lawmakers, have been asking the government to disclose the so-called Napoles' list as some have expressed doubts that the administration might sanitize it to spare its allies from the Priority Development Assistance Fund (PDAF) mess.

The Senate Blue Ribbon committee, which is investigating the scam, has already invited de Lima and Napoles to shed light on the matter.

A petition was also filed by a lawyer with the Supreme Court (SC) to compel de Lima to release the list. (SDR/Sunnex)

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